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Makkert · Jun 07, 2005, 12:49 PM // 12:49

seriously, this change was brilliant.

it forces people to communicate in one pattern. by doing so, one gets better teamwork
the use of german and french repeately in groups that weren't all german/french was a pain in the ass.

And they can come to english districts, as long as they use english. I found this change the best yet.
it doesn't split up europe. it splits up the people that want to communicate in their native tongue from the general english crowd. and those were allready 'spllitting europe' when the servers were one.

and no, i'm not british.

Rhombus · Jun 07, 2005, 12:49 PM // 12:49

So that's why I'm so lonely these days.... I also liked frenchies

. Plz give us our big european district back!

-(Hyper)- · Jun 07, 2005, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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Originally Posted by Druadan Winterblade

No, it hasn't been split in five. It's been segregated into five by language, bringing closer together the speakers of the different languages. Previously all the English players were still there, they were just distrbuted amongst a lot of non-English players, making it harder to find them. Now they're all grouped together into the English district.

The real statistic to watch is the number of players by language, and see how that affects the game.

Well, it has still been split in five. Five languages, five districts, 1/5 of the player base to each district.

Rieselle · Jun 07, 2005, 04:21 PM // 16:21

This is only slightly related to the topic - but I want more communication hotkeys and functions. Currently it's pretty good - if you want to be healed, ctrl-click your health, if you're a caster and want the group to rest, click your energy, etc. (I assume these show up in other peoples' native language on their computers?) But a couple more like "Wait", "Follow me", etc would be useful. Most parties (even english speaking ones) dont type that often except to chat or in special situations anyway, so it shouldn't take too much to make cross-language parties able to work effectively with just communication commands.

Pevil Lihatuh · Jun 07, 2005, 06:25 PM // 18:25

I'm failing to see how merging will make it better for the majority. Bear with me here.

I'm from UK. I speak english only. Therefore I've been playing US servers because its pointless attempting to team with french/spanish etc because we can't understand each other. No matter how skilled the team is, communication is vital to good team work. Therefore, there goes the teamwork, we all die.

Now for the majority of people, having language-separated districts is good. Someone who can only speak french goes to the french district. Someone who only speaks italian goes to the italian one. They can join a group of people that can all understand each other.

It should make no difference numbers-wise... say there are 5 districts. And say there are 5 languages. Also say there are 1000 people on european servers. Now this means that before, you would have 200 people in each district, but all speaking 5 languages. So in each district you would effectivly have 40 people speaking english, 40 italian, 40 spanish, 40 french and 40 german. So ignoring those who can speak more than one language, you had 39 other people to group with. Now however, you go to a district with 200 people on... and all the other 199 can understand you.

If you have people on your friends list, well youc an still message them and meet up with them in another district. And I get your point about joining up with spanish/french/whatever and all speaking english so you can understand each other... but you can still do it. Maybe you should learn spanish so you can go talk to the spanish in their own tongue. After all, everyone in europe is expected to learn english, but us english (yes you said you're not english, im talking about me

) never attempt to learn another language so that, say, germans can talk to us in their own tongue.

UK people will come back from US servers... I sure as hell don't wanna help the US win the favour of the gods! We do too much of that in the real world!

none · Jun 07, 2005, 06:47 PM // 18:47

i've said it before, and i'll repeat it: the system as such is fine - as long as the playerbase supports such a high number of districts. this is true for most of the bigger cities and for some of the more popular missions, but it is definitely not true for missions later in the game and many many small outposts. only one slight change and everything would be fine:

1. every town/outpost starts out with only one district.
2. once there are enough ppl to support a second district, all five districts for the major languages are created. and ppl are divided accordingly. make the default district english.

this is not the end all be all solution, but it will surely improve the current situation.

momo2oo2 · Jun 08, 2005, 06:55 AM // 06:55

Merge that with the idea of grouping languages with less than 10-20 people in the international district and perfection is close

-(Hyper)- · Jun 08, 2005, 07:19 AM // 07:19

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Originally Posted by none

i've said it before, and i'll repeat it: the system as such is fine - as long as the playerbase supports such a high number of districts. this is true for most of the bigger cities and for some of the more popular missions, but it is definitely not true for missions later in the game and many many small outposts. only one slight change and everything would be fine:

1. every town/outpost starts out with only one district.
2. once there are enough ppl to support a second district, all five districts for the major languages are created. and ppl are divided accordingly. make the default district english.

this is not the end all be all solution, but it will surely improve the current situation.

Precisely. Ascalon city, Lions Arch and other major cities all have a large number of players, but many of the smaller cities are completely abandoned now. Before they usually had around 20 players or so, but now it's hard to find a district with more than 5 players. I believe some kind of merging is required to effectively populate these districts.

If the player base gets large enough, they can split it, but I still believe English should be the default, then people can move manually to the language they prefer.

Tormunda · Jun 08, 2005, 07:32 AM // 07:32

I played on US, i'm playing on EU now.
If I can goto an area where everyone speaks English then great!
Nothing against other native speakers, I can speak Welsh, Chinese, a bit of German and some French but English is the common tongue and everyone should be speaking it.
I am not going to fire up team speak and have a load of French and German babble going on in the background. Period!

I 100% agree on the current set-up.

Wolfeye · Jun 08, 2005, 08:14 AM // 08:14

I am playing the game from Turkiye and i must say i am veeery happy with the change.

Thats not a guilt for other languages as said before on topic its all about to change your point of wiev. Go to English districts...

Some ppl have a strange point that English is not their main language and speaking in their native language is ok with everyone even others dont understand. God knows i never speak Turkish in team play even if 6 out of 8 in team is Friends from my country. It's rude...

Learn it ppl its an international game and the international dominant language is English not Russian, not French not any other. Youre just being rude if you do so realise it. And yes if they change it back to mixed district i will move to U.S.

I am not tryin to be a flamer but i am playing various mmo's like for 7 seven years i've never seen anything like this before. And making me mad.

cyberzomby · Jun 08, 2005, 09:00 AM // 09:00

Yes I realy think the splitting is a good thing. Now the english and the french wont have those anoying germans in there team, that arent even from the same clan and chatting like there old time friends.
True sometimes there are les people in at high levels realy, but than if it were international districts you would still have 5 or 6 players in. Cause now each languagae district only has 1 or 2 players in.
The grouping is a lot better, since the splitting ive encountered a lot better groups, yesterday was the first time i encountered anoying groups and that was in a low level area with my new character.
What someone else said, there are fewer people but they all speak my language is very nice and true. Normaly the germands spanish and french were in 2, so it looked like there were more players, but they our you wouldnt group with them cause they didnt speak the language